21st August 2017 

English Watches


Unless otherwise stated all watches have 7 jewels, are working, keep at least reasonable time for their age and wind and set correctly. Lids and bezels are secure, stay closed and where appropriate open when the button or crown is pressed. Any inscriptions, dedications or monograms (other than jewellers and makers marks) and any gold plate worn through to the core will either be shown in the photographs, described in the text or both.

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English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. LWCF

The Lancashire Watch Company, Prescot.

Formed in 1888 and made close to 900,000 movements making it the largest British watch company in terms of total production. The company went into liquidation in 1906 although it continued trading in administration until the assets were sold off in 1910. My blog post "Thoughts on the failure of the Lancashire Watch Company " explores one of the probable reasons for this early failure,

The first large scale attempt in England at standardised factory production of an entire watch. The some more information is available in this 2 page PDF document from the Prescot Musium.


English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. WEf

William Ehrhardt Ltd

Were based in Birmingham but are usually considered a Coventry maker and were working as manufacturers from 1856 until the 1920's and in the watch trade into the 1930's. Their total production was about 700,000 movements. Their winged arrow trademark is sometimes found on their movements. The recent picture (reproduced with permission, click on it for a different view) of the Timeworks Factory is from Rob H (who purchased a Ehrhardt watch from me in 2015), the now listed building was fortunately not demolished when a duel carriage way was built close by in the 1960's.

The British Watch Co


From 1921 this was as a trading name of Ehrhardt’s who were either trying to persuade people to buy British in the face of American and Swiss competition or were trying to disassociate themselves from Germany after the Great War.


Other Makers

Key Set watches are on the next page.


English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. E750f

E750. Roskell, 13J, 1895.

This watch is signed by Robert Roskell of Liverpool but was made in Coventry from a Prescott ebauché , probably by the Lancashire Watch Company as many of the components and the general layout are the same as their products, and was finished by one of the smaller Coventry makers. The slow train, pin set, size 14 movement has 13 jewels, a true English Lever Escapement with a "ratchet" or "spiked" escape and an over-sprung cut compensating balance. The Geneva stop gear has been disabled either because of a breakage or to give a longer run time, with a modern mainspring the impact on timekeeping will not be significant as explained in my blog posting on non functioning Genva gear. The dial is almost certainly a replacement as the number on the dial does not match the movement.

Ultrasonically cleaned, serviced and with a new mainspring and is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

E750 Roskell (Coventry) 13J 1895 (6)

The heavy English made case is bigger than the average for a size 14 movement at 2.05" / 5.2 cm excluding the pendant etc. and is 0.65" / 1.6 cm thick making the same as most English size 16 watches of the period. It has Chester hallmarks for Sterling Silver, 1895, the makers mark of A.H. Ratcliffe of Norfolk ST., Coventry and the same serial number as the movement. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new mineral glass crystal from old stock.

STOCK £370 More pictures on Zenfolio.


English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. Next

Recently Sold Watches

Following requests from buyers who are giving watches as presents I no longer show the price of sold watches.



Coventry Watch Movement Company

Was formed in 1889 in response to the formation of the Lancashire Watch Company to make complete watches rather than the ebauché traditionally made around Prescot, this threatened the supply of movements for the Coventry trade to finish. The new company did not make complete watches but kits or unfinished movements for completion by others.

By 1912 watch movements was only a third of production as they diversified into components for the cycle, motor and other industries. It is unlikely that there was any watch production by 1915 as the company moved to war work, including aircraft parts.



English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. S809f

Chronograph & Centre Seconds Watches

Traditional early English Chronographs also known as "Doctors" watches as the centre seconds hand aided the taking of a patients pulse rate, have a completely different layout to a "normal" watch to facilitate the seconds hand. They also have a simple stop start mechanism operated by a slider switch, this operates by completely stopping the movement so that the time has to be reset after use. There is also no facility to reset the seconds hand. Due to the risk of accidentally sliding the switch and the impractical nature of the stop / start function many of these chronographs have had the stop function disabled or removed.

Most English chronographs of this type are in large sizes between size 18 and size 22 or more and make substantial time pieces, many were made as hunters of half hunters in silver but very few survive with their cases which have long since gone to the smelters. The above example is a rare 15 jewel size 16 half hunter chronograph, Swiss made in the English Style dating from 1880.

Later, the stop function was dropped and smaller conventional movements converted to have centre seconds hands.


English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. S796fMore complex chronographs were later developed primarily by the Swiss which incorporated a facility to reset the seconds hand to zero, to start it and to stop it, normally by repeated pressings of the crown, without stopping the main movement. These would often have additional dials to allow times to be recorded greater than 60 seconds and to incorporate a "normal" subsidiary seconds hand that does not stop with the centre seconds hand.

Further complications included the "split seconds" chronograph which had to centre seconds hand which could be stopped independently allowing for example the timing of the first and second in a race.


English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. E712f

E712. Ehrhardt 1906 Series for Bravingtons. 1908.

A three-quarter plate 1906 series movement by the Ehrhardt and signed "Bravingtons King's London" and under the dial with the Ehrhardt winged arrow trade mark which is also stamped "1906 Series". It is laid out as an English Lever but has a Swiss style Club Tooth escape and has a Breguet Elenvar sprung screwed balance.

Ultrasonically cleaned, serviced and with a new mainspring and is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

The English made double backed case has Birmingham hallmarks for Sterling Silver, 1908 and the makers mark of William Ehrhardt. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new mineral glass crystal from old stock.

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English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. S808f

S808. Thos Russell (W&M) Chronograph 15J half hunter, 1880.

A very rare survivor. The Swiss made movement is stamped under the balance cock "W & M", I have been unable to track down any maker with these initials and it may be that the "W" represents the importer and the "M" one of any number of Swiss makers with that initial active at the time.

The movement is made in the English manner with no significant external indication of it's origins (the securing screws for the dial being the only give-away), it has 15 jewels and a true English Lever escapement with a Breguet sprung cut compensating balance. The chronograph "Stop" mechanism is present but was VERY stiff and at the same time quite worn so I have disabled it as it was extremely difficult to get it safety into the "run" setting resulting in unreliable operation of the movement and poor timekeeping.

Ultrasonically cleaned and serviced with a new mainspring it is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

It is signed on the movement:

Thos Russell & Son, 18 Church St, Liverpool
Makers to the Queen
No 50872


The English double backed case has London hallmarks for Sterling Silver, 1880, the same serial number as the movement and the "maker's" mark of Louis Weill of Holborn Circus, London. Weill was a watch importer and would have had the case made, probably in London, and then submitted for assay on his behalf. The case is quite small for a chronograph, about the same diameter as a normal hunter at 2.06" / 5.22cm but is a little thicker at 0.7" / 1.7 cm excluding the secondary crystal. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has an excellent mineral glass main crystal and a new secondary.
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English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. E722f

E772. Ehrhardt 1906 Series, 15J, 1921.

A three-quarter plate 1906 series movement signed under the dial with the Ehrhardt winged arrow trade mark which is also stamped "1906 Series". Originally made for the British Military near the end of WWI (Note the broad arrow "property" mark on the movement) but never delivered it was later cased by Ehrhardt and sold for civilian use. It is laid out as an English Lever but has a Swiss style Club Tooth escape and has a Breguet sprung cut compensating balance.

Ultrasonically cleaned, serviced and with a new mainspring and is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

E772 Ehrhardt 15J 1921 (6)

The English made double backed case has Birmingham hallmarks for Sterling Silver, 1921 and the makers mark of William Ehrhardt. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new mineral glass crystal from old stock.

. £340 More pictures on Zenfolio.


English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. E778f

E778. LWC for Samuel, the "Accurate", Key Set, 1899.

A classic size 16 English full plate key wound (from the back) and set (from the front) movement by the Lancashire Watch Company for Harriet Samuel of Manchester. It has 7 jewels and an over-sprung cut compensating balance. It has a variant of the dummy Fusee (described in my blog post on the LWC "Trip Action") and therefore winds anticlockwise (as were English Fusee watches). It is set from the front by using the key on the "hub" holding the hands.

Ultrasonically cleaned, serviced and with a new mainspring and is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

The English Consular type "swing out" case has Chester hallmarks for Sterling Silver, 1899 and the makers mark "H.S" as used by Harriet Samuel but would have been made by the LWC and submitted for Assay on Behalf of Samuel. Although the movement is "only" a size 16, being a full plate and in this type the case is rather thicker than a "standard" 20th century size 16, it is 2.1" / 5.2cm in diameter excluding the pendant etc. and 0.73" / 1.85cm thick. The front Bezel is tight and a case knife is recommended to save finger nails. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new mineral glass crystal from old stock.

SOLD More pictures on Zenfolio.


English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. E748f

E748. W.H. Cave, 9J, 1892.

This watch signed by H.W. Cave of Biggen St, Dover was made in Coventry from a Prescott ebauché , probably by the Lancashire Watch Company as many of the components and the general layout are the same as their products. There is a mark under the dial showing 3 spires and the initials "JA", this is likely to be one of John, James or Joseph Adams, or J Adkins & Son who were small Coventry makers. The slow train, pin set movement has 9 jewels, a true English Lever Escapement with a "ratchet" or "spiked" escape and an over-sprung cut compensating balance. It has functioning Geneva stop gear to control mainspring pressure.

Ultrasonically cleaned, serviced and with a new mainspring and is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

The English made double backed case has London Hallmarks for Sterling Silver, 1892, the same serial number as the movement and the makers mark of Robert Pike of Earlsdon, Coventry. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new crystal.

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English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. E789f

E789. LWC - Graves "Express" English Lever, Key Set, 1905.

A classic size 16 English full plate key wound (from the back) and set (from the front) movement by the Lancashire Watch Company for J.G. Graves of Sheffield. The latest "Express" Lever I have seen and possibly the latest LWC "Dummy".

Despite the name it has a Swiss Lever Escapement, 7 jewels and an over-sprung cut compensating balance. It has a dummy Fusee and therefore winds anticlockwise (as were English Fusee watches). It is set from the front by using the key on the "hub" holding the hands. Some back ground information can be found on my blog post blog post on the "Express English Lever".

Ultrasonically cleaned and serviced with a new mainspring and is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

The English Consular type "swing out" case has Chester hallmarks for Sterling Silver, 1905 and the makers mark "TPH" as used by the LWC. Although the movement is "only" a size 16, being a full plate and in this type the case is rather thicker than a "standard" 20th century size 16, it is 2.1" / 5.2cm in diameter excluding the pendant etc. and 0.8" / 2.05cm thick. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new mineral glass crystal from old stock.

SOLD

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English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. E792f

E792. LWC for Fattorini, 15J, c1905.

A classic English 15 jewel three-quarter plate movement by the Lancashire Watch Co it has a Swiss Lever escapement but is laid out as an English Lever and has a Breguet sprung cut compensating balance. It is listed as an "Excellent" quality type 116 movement in the 1898 trade catalogue with the addition of 3 pairs of jewels and the engraving for the retailer - Fattorini and Sons of Bradford (makers of the FA Cup). The variants of the three-quarter plate movement is looked at in some detail in my blog post Thoughts on the failure of the Lancashire Watch Company .

Ultrasonically cleaned, serviced and with a new mainspring and is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

The English double backed case is in Filled Gold. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new crystal.

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English Watches - LWC, Ehrhardt & Others. E793f

E793. Newsome 15J half hunter, 1895.

A high quality slow train movement by Newsome of Coventry from an ebauché by the Coventry Watch Movement Co. it has 15 jewels, a true English Lever escapement with a Breguet sprung cut compensating balance and with functional Geneva stop gear to control mainspring pressure.

Ultrasonically cleaned, serviced and with a new mainspring it is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

E793 Newsome 15J half hunter 1895 (10)

The double backed English case has Chester Hallmarks for Sterling Silver 1895 and the mark of Isacc Jabez Theo Newsome. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has two new crystals.

SOLD More pictures on Zenfolio.