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11th December 2017 

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Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. Chronof

Chronograph & Centre Seconds Watches

Traditional early English Chronographs also known as "Doctors" watches as the centre seconds hand aided the taking of a patients pulse rate, have a completely different layout to a "normal" watch to facilitate the seconds hand. They also have a simple stop start mechanism operated by a slider switch, this operates by completely stopping the movement so that the time has to be reset after use. There is also no facility to reset the seconds hand. Due to the risk of accidentally sliding the switch and the impractical nature of the stop / start function many of these chronographs have had the stop function disabled or removed.

Most English chronographs of this type are in large sizes between size 18 and size 22 or more and make substantial time pieces, many were made as hunters of half hunters in silver but very few survive with their cases which have long since gone to the smelters. The above example is a rare 15 jewel size 16 half hunter chronograph, Swiss made in the English Style dating from 1880.

Later, the stop function was dropped and smaller conventional movements converted to have centre seconds hands.


Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. S796fMore complex chronographs were later developed primarily by the Swiss which incorporated a facility to reset the seconds hand to zero, to start it and to stop it, normally by repeated pressings of the crown, without stopping the main movement. These would often have additional dials to allow times to be recorded greater than 60 seconds and to incorporate a "normal" subsidiary seconds hand that does not stop with the centre seconds hand.

Further complications included the "split seconds" chronograph which had to centre seconds hand which could be stopped independently allowing for example the timing of the first and second in a race.


Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. Constuct

S850. Unsigned Swiss Flyback Chronograph, 17J, c1914.

A good quality but unsigned movement simply marked "Swiss Made" made c 1914. It has 17 jewels and a Breguet Elinvar sprung screwed balance with double roller. It is crown wound and set. The centre seconds hand is started, stopped and returned to zero in sequence by pressing the crown in. The top subsidary dial records the number of minutes since the centre seconds hands were started up to 30 but continues to rotate until the seconds hand is stopped. Driving the centre seconds hand and the rest of the "extra" working gear takes powere from the watch so it is best not to leave it running in this mode as it will shorten run time slightly and may, over a period of hours, have an impact on time keeping.

The red outer set of numbers are used to show speed in m.p.h over a measured quarter of a mile, usually so you knew how fast your train was going.

Serviced and with a new mainspring and keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

The English double backed case is a Dennison "Moon" grade in 10 carat filled gold. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new crystal.

It is in final test and should be available from the 6th December. pictures soon/


Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches

Dress watches will generally size 12 or below in slim cases to avoid distorting evening dress waistcoat pockets. Most will be American or Swiss. When cased the size can vary quite significantly so dimensions are given for each watch.

Fob watches are by convention size 8 and below intended to be carried in a trouser "fob" pocket but may also be used as a "Ladies" watch.




Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. E743f

E743 Vine & Thompson 11J half hunter fob watch, 1891.

The pin set movement has 11 jewels and functioning Geneva gear to control spring pressure, it has a true English Escapement with a Breguet sprung cut compensating balance. signed on the movement by Vine & Thompson, Aldersgate St, E.C. London it was almost certainly made in Coventry as a gents fob watch or Ladies half hunter. see this blog entry for more information on this watch and this one for a bit about its restoration. (starting about half way down the page).

Serviced and with a new mainspring and keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

Oxford Pocket Watches: E743 Vine & Thompson 11J half hunter fob watch 1891 &emdash; E743 Vine & Thompson 11J half hunter fob watch 1891 (3)

Oxford Pocket Watches: E743 Vine & Thompson 11J half hunter fob watch 1891 &emdash; E743 Vine & Thompson 11J half hunter fob watch 1891 (2)

Oxford Pocket Watches: E743 Vine & Thompson 11J half hunter fob watch 1891 &emdash; E743 Vine & Thompson 11J half hunter fob watch 1891 (11)


The Consular style swing out case has London hallmarks for Sterling Silver, 1891 and the makers mark of William Bullock, Cherry St, Coventry. The case is 1.6" / 4cm in diameter excluding the pendant etc, and 0.5" / 1.2cm thick. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new mineral glass primary crystal from old stock and an excellent glass secondary.

BRACKLEY £475 More pictures on Zenfolio.


Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. W676f

W676. Waltham 1894-220, 15J, 1918.

A size 12 split plate movement with 15 Jewels. The Swiss Lever escapement has a cut compensating balance with Breguet Spring. The serial number dates it to 1918.

Serviced and with a new mainspring and keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.



Oxford Pocket Watches: W676 Waltham 1894-220 15J 1918 &emdash; W676 Waltham 1894-220 15J 1918 (13)

The American screw backed case is a "Stellar" model in 10 carat Rolled Gold by the Star Watch Case Company, it is 1.8" / 4.5cm in diameter excluding the pendant etc. and 0.45" / 1.1 cm. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new mineral glass crystal from old stock.

STOCK £270 More pictures on Zenfolio.


Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. W387f

W387. Waltham 1894-220, 15J, 1920

A size 12 split plate movement with 15 Jewels. The Swiss Lever escapement has a cut compensating balance with Breguet Spring. The serial number dates it to 1920.

Serviced and with a new mainspring and keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.



Oxford Pocket Watches: W387 Waltham 1894-220 15J 1920 &emdash; W387 Waltham 1894-220 15J 1920 (4)

In an American made "Tivoli" White Filled Gold screw backed case by the Illinois Watch Case Co. The literature indicates that this model is post 1924 so the movement has been re-cased. It has been ultrasonically cleaned, has a new mineral glass crystal from old stock and measures 1.7" / 4.4 cm in diameter excluding the pendant etc.

STOCK £320 £280 More pictures on Zenfolio.
Please see the note below regarding re-cased watches.


Discounted Watches - mainly re-cased

Please read this introduction before ordering watches from this section.


Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. recaseHere you will find watches that do not come up to the standard I would like but are in my view too good to be used for spares. Movements will normally be of the same mechanical standard as others on the web site and will normally carry my usual 12 months warranty but something else is not right, usually one of the following:
Marriages: This is when someone has but a movement into a case previously used by a different movement. Usually this will be identified from witness marks left on the case by the case screws from the previous movement (see picture right) or by the case being of the wrong era or having earlier hallmarks than the known date of the movement.

A case younger than the movement does not necessarily mean that a case has been reused, a movement may have been put into a newly made case following wear or damage, this is most likely to happen with movements in standard watch cases but I also see it with gold and silver cases that have the same serial number as the movement so they clearly belong together.

Many of the marriages will be ones I bought in and only found out when it arrived that it was a marriage, others I will have made when I have had to scrap a case belonging to one watch and a movement from another. If you don't mind the marriage these will be good value being 15 - 25% cheaper (and more if combined with other issues) than a correctly case watch.


Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. W687f

W687. Waltham 1908-PSB, 17J, 1919.

A high grade 1908 model, size 16, split plate movement with 17 jewels, a Swiss lever escapement, cut compensated balance and Breguet Spring with micro adjuster, adjusted to temperature. Crown wound and set. The serial number dates it to 1919.

Ultrasonically cleaned and serviced with a new mainspring and is keeping excellent time, 12 months warranty.


W687 Waltham 1908-PSB 17J 1919


The following is a description of the movement from a 1913 advertisement (Price for movement only):

PSB

The English made case double backed, triple hinged, case has Birmingham hallmarks for Sterling Silver, 1919 and the mark of A.L. Dennison, it has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new crystal.

There is a strong possibility that this watch has been re-cased there are witness marks on the case from case screws, they line up with the movement screws but not when the movement is lined up with the winder it is possible that someone tried to secure the movement in the wrong place but it is more likely that the case is not original even with the matching dates, hence the discounted price.

STOCK £375 £325 More pictures on Zenfolio


Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. S848f

S848. Zenith 15J Hunter, 1921.

A quality movement, approximately a size 16, is signed by this long established premium maker it has 15 jewels and a Swiss lever escapement with a Breguet sprung cut compensating balance with double roller and micro adjustment, dated from the serial number to 1921.

Ultrasonically cleaned, serviced and with a new mainspring it is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

S848 Zenith 15J Hunter 1921  (10)


The English double backed, triple hinged, case is a Moon grade by Dennison in 10 carat Filled Gold. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new crystal. There are a number of small dings on the case and is heavily discounted as a result.

STOCK £250 More pictures on Zenfolio.

Also listed under Zenith.


Recently Sold Watches

Following requests from buyers who are giving watches as presents I no longer show the price of sold watches.


Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. E754f

E754. Rotherham 19J Dress Watch, 14 Crt Gold, 1932.

A rare survivor, I have only seen one of these before with a case and that was silver, the cases are quite fragile and many have gone to the smelter as scrap. The movement is a slimed down version of the Rotherham 19J size 12 movement and is about two-thirds the depth, which with tight casing (the case is 1.77" / 4.5cm in diameter excluding the pendant etc. and 0.43" / 1.08 cm thick) makes the normally quite bulky watch suitable for wear with evening dress as well as for normal use.

The excellent size 12 pin set movement has a true English Lever escapement with a Breguet sprung cut compensating balance. It is jewelled as for a 15 jewel movement but with the addition of cap jewels on the lever and escape for a total of 19. It is signed under the dial with the Rotherham trade mark and on the movement by Gaydon & Sons of Kingston on Thames.

Ultrasonically cleaned, serviced and with a new mainspring it is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

The dial for this model was an unusual clip on type that I have not seen on other English watches. This watch is available with the optional metal dial that was in fashion at the time which has Arabic numerals or with a white ceramic dial with Roman numerals.

E754 roman face

The English made snap back case has Birmingham hallmarks for 14 carat (0.585) gold, 1932 and the mark of Rotherham and Sons. This is yellow gold, in some of the pictures the rim looks to be a different colour, this is a photographic effect, they are the same colour and the rim is the truer reproduction. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new mineral glass crystal from old stock.

SOLD More Pictures on Zenfolio.


Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. W699f

W699. Waltham 1908-Traveler, half hunter 1913.

A size 16, split plate movement with 7 jewels, a Swiss lever escapement, Breguet sprung cut compensated balance. Crown wound and set. The serial number dates it to 1913.

Ultrasonically cleaned and serviced with a new mainspring and is keeping excellent time, months warranty.

Re-cased by me, the case originally had a Swiss movement and is a few years younger than the movement. English made in Rolled Gold, it is a "Star" grade by Dennison. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new primary crystal and a good secondary, the pictures make the pocket wear look much worse than it is, there is no wear through the gold plate.

SOLD More pictures on Zenfolio.


Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. E759f

E759. Rotherham for Page et al, 19J, c1915 / 1890.

The movement is from around 1915 and has been re-cased. This excellent size 16 pin set movement (less common than the size 12 version) is by Rotherham and Sons of Coventry it has a true English Lever escapement with a Breguet sprung cut compensating balance. It is jewelled as for a 15 jewel movement but with the addition of cap jewels on the lever and escape for a total of 19 and has functional Geneva Stop Gear to control mainspring pressure. It is signed under the dial with the Rotherham trade mark and on the movement by "Page, Keen & Page Ltd of Plymouth who branded it "The Service".

Ultrasonically cleaned, serviced and with a new mainspring it is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty

The English made double backed case has Birmingham hallmarks for Sterling Silver, 1890 and the mark of John Rotherham and previously housed a similar movement which unfortunately was not restorable. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new mineral glass crystal from old stock. The case is 2.05" / 5.2cm in diameter excluding the pendant etc and is 0.6" / 1.57cm thick.

SOLD More pictures on Zenfolio.


Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. E768f

E768. Rotherham 19J Half Hunter Ladies or Fob watch, 1907.

A rare size 0 pin set movement by Rotherham and Sons of Coventry, a scaled down version of their excellent 19J movement built as a Gent's Fob watch or for Ladies. It has a true English Lever escapement with a Breguet sprung cut compensating balance. It is jewelled as for a 15 jewel movement but with the addition of cap jewels on the lever and escape for a total of 19 and is equipped with functional Geneva Stop Gear to control mainspring pressure. It is signed under the dial with the Rotherham trade mark.

Ultrasonically cleaned, serviced and with a new mainspring it is keeping excellent time. 12 months warranty.

 E768 Rotherham 19J half hunter fob watch 1907 (9)

E768 Rotherham 19J half hunter fob watch 1907 (2)


The double backed case has Birmingham hallmarks for Sterling silver, 1907 and the makers mark of John Rotherham. The case is 1.5" / 3.8 cm in diameter excluding the pendant etc. and is 0.46" / 1.8 cm thick excluding the secondary crystal. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has two new mineral glass crystals from old stock.

RESERVED .
Also listed under "Rotherham".


Chronographs, Dress, Fob & Ladies Watches. Discounted & Re-Cased Watches. W700f

W700. Waltham 1899-Traveler, 1903.

A size 16, split plate movement with 7 jewels, a Swiss lever escapement, Breguet sprung cut compensated balance. Crown wound and set. The serial number dates it to 1903.

Ultrasonically cleaned and serviced with a new mainspring and is keeping excellent time, 12 months warranty.

Re-cased by me, the case originally had an English movement from the same year as the Waltham. English made in 10 carat Filled Gold, it is a "Moon" grade by Dennison. It has been ultrasonically cleaned and has a new crystal.

SOLD More pictures on Zenfolio.